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Post by Mercy Rosenburg on Jan 12, 2006 23:01:49 GMT -5
PrefectsIn the books it says that Prefects are either 5th or 6th years, and so far all the Prefects on the site have been 5th or 6th year students. However, a few 7th year students have asked to be Prefect and I'm wondering if we should have 7th Year Prefects on the site. What do you think - should we have 7th Year Prefects on the site? Why or why not? Please vote and you can also give your reasons on why you voted the way you did below. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Head Boy/Head GirlI honestly thought that there was only 1 Head Boy and 1 Head Girl each year (because in the books it mentions Penelope Clearwater and Percy Weasley as the Head Boy and Head Girl for one year, but doesn't mention any other students), but Aireona Skies and Claire DeLour recently brought up a good point - should there be a Head Boy and Head Girl for each house? It would probably make things a bit more fair. Another thought I had was did it mention that it was 2 prefects for each house? I thought it did, but then I read the Prefects thing over and it said there were 'two from each house in fifth year', leading me to wonder if there was a 5th Year female and male Prefect as well as a 6th Year female and male Prefect for each house - or did I just read that wrong? Anyway, my opinion: No, I don't think there should be 7th Year Prefects. However, I am open to the idea of having a Head Boy and Head Girl from each house. Also, just because you were a Prefect doesn't automatically make you Head Boy or Head Girl - I give those positions to the people who I think deserve them the most. That doesn't mean that you can't be Head Boy or Head Girl after being a Prefect, but it does mean that you have to show that you're still a worthy candidate. There are some really good Prefects on this site, while others have taken the job far less seriously and some have already been removed from their position. So - my additional questions are this: Should there be a Head Boy and Head Girl from each house? Should there be both a 5th Year male and female Prefect and a 6th Year male and female Prefect from each house?
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Post by Riachnyn Black on Jan 13, 2006 0:14:18 GMT -5
Yes, absolutely! It would give some of the people that just joined a chance to be Prefect.
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Post by Ian Blackthorne on Jan 13, 2006 0:31:59 GMT -5
I really am not sure so I'm going to say the pros and cons for each...
Yes: They should be able to because it opens up the site more and allows 7th years to shoot for something besides Head Boy/Girl which is hard to get, and allows for more competition: I mean, I was the only really active 6th or 5th year male Gryffindor, but if 7th years were allowed, Deangelo probably would have gotten Prefect.
No: I think that the book does state that only 5th and 6th years can be, and if the site is going to stay exactly as the books/movies were, this would be the preferable option. It proves legitimacy to the books, and is more authentic I guess....
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Post by Dovesary Aemeson on Jan 13, 2006 6:53:16 GMT -5
I think it should stay as it is. If they wanted to be prefect, they could have made their character a fifth or sixth year, it was their choice. If we want this to be like the books, then we should keep it fifth and sixth years only.
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Post by Narcissa Malfoy on Jan 13, 2006 9:45:05 GMT -5
If the book says there are no 7th year prefects, then I say there will not be 7th years prefects. Simple. Besides, is there so much work to do that we need more prefects?
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Post by Rachel Duly on Jan 13, 2006 10:27:15 GMT -5
No. The book is the basis of this website, and it did not have 7th year prefects. Therefore, we should not either. If the newer people want to have a part like that, either be a 5th or 6th year instead of 7th, or try to be head boy/girl.
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Post by Rachel Duly on Jan 13, 2006 14:47:40 GMT -5
No, thats when they have to oppertunity to become Head Boy or Head Girl.
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Post by Kaylyn Newell on Jan 13, 2006 21:19:11 GMT -5
Susan does make a good point, that it seems a bit odd that Prefects would be "demoted" when they reach seventh year. There is one Head Boy position, and one Head Girl position, while there are four Prefects eligible for each position. What happens to the three that don't get the position? Do they lose whatever status they had and go back to a normal student? I'd agree that the books are a bit unclear on that point.
However, I feel that there really shouldn't be. It is not explicitly stated in the books that there are not seventh year prefects, but they don't play a huge role if there are. If new members would like to try for a prefect position, they should make their character no older than sixth year (considering positions are set for the moment, it might even make sense to make a fourth year, leaving them two years to try for the position as they advance).
I don't particularly agree that we should say, "No, because the books say there aren't any," because there are plenty of things on this site that aren't in the books. I don't think it's fair to base an entire argument off of "It doesn't say that in the book so we're not going to do it here."
Another point to take into consideration is: How many prefects do we really need? Do we really have anything for these people to do if they become prefects? Besides, weren't all the positions just redone? Allowing seventh year prefects just adds another variable to figuring out who's going to get what position.
I'm done now. Just my opinion, take it or leave it.
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Post by Claire DeLour on Jan 14, 2006 3:12:33 GMT -5
I think we need to keep it how it is. In the rules, it clearly states that on the boards, we need to stick to the book unless it isn't stated right or wrong either way. For example, it's ok to add new clubs, the book never says that there wasn't a drama club. But the book is specific in saying that prefects are 5th or 6th years, and the Head Boy and Head Girl are 7th years.
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Post by Cari Finnigan on Jan 15, 2006 18:39:47 GMT -5
Oh absolutley!! i think we should!! two girls and two boys 7th years from each house then!! it would be fun if we did i would totally run for girl for 7th year slytherin
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Post by Claire DeLour on Jan 15, 2006 21:33:07 GMT -5
That's a great point, Rowling never said that there was only one head girl and one head boy. I actually thought that it was a Head Boy and Head Girl for each house, to be honest! Since Rowling doesn't specify, I think we should take the liberty of saying that there is a HB and HG for each house. But I don't think that they should get that role automatically. That would mean that no other person would have a chance at a role like that, which isn't fair. Claire for instance, really wanted to be a Prefect, and when she didn't get the role, she was like moving her thoughts to the position of Head Girl. If we had everybody move up their positions, it wouldn't be fair to all those people who want a title who can't have it simply because they weren't voted, or they came in after the decisions were made. You see what I mean?
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Post by Mercy Rosenburg on Jan 15, 2006 22:05:05 GMT -5
Head Boy/Head GirlI honestly thought that there was only 1 Head Boy and 1 Head Girl each year (because in the books it mentions Penelope Clearwater and Percy Weasley as the Head Boy and Head Girl for one year, but doesn't mention any other students), but Aireona Skies and Claire DeLour recently brought up a good point - should there be a Head Boy and Head Girl for each house? It would probably make things a bit more fair. Another thought I had was did it mention that it was 2 prefects for each house? I thought it did, but then I read the Prefects thing over and it said there were 'two from each house in fifth year', leading me to wonder if there was a 5th Year female and male Prefect as well as a 6th Year female and male Prefect for each house - or did I just read that wrong? Anyway, my opinion: No, I don't think there should be 7th Year Prefects. However, I am open to the idea of having a Head Boy and Head Girl from each house. Also, just because you were a Prefect doesn't automatically make you Head Boy or Head Girl - I give those positions to the people who I think deserve them the most. That doesn't mean that you can't be Head Boy or Head Girl after being a Prefect, but it does mean that you have to show that you're still a worthy candidate. There are some really good Prefects on this site, while others have taken the job far less seriously and some have already been removed from their position. So - my additional questions are this: Should there be a Head Boy and Head Girl from each house? Should there be both a 5th Year male and female Prefect and a 6th Year male and female Prefect from each house?
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Post by Claire DeLour on Jan 15, 2006 22:12:44 GMT -5
Yes, there should be a HB and HG from each house.
No, there should only be one female and one male prefect per house.
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Post by Aquarius Skye Potter on Jan 16, 2006 2:48:37 GMT -5
I think that head boy and girl idea for each house is an awsome idea!
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Post by Rachel Duly on Jan 16, 2006 14:34:39 GMT -5
I think that there should be a head boy and girl from each house. My interpretation reguarding prefects and ages would be that there is 5th year prefects and 6th year prefects. Let me explain why. Ron and Hermione were chosen to be prefects in there 5th year. It says that prefects are chosen in the 5th year. They continue being prefects in the 6th year. That means that when Ron and Hermione were chosen to be prefects in their 5th year, there were already two prefects who were going into their 6th year. So, I think that there should be two 5th year prefects and two sixth year prefects.
As a side note to Arieona Skies, I hope I am not sounding rude when I say this, but I hope you didn't use all of your characters to vote in this.
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Post by Zara Leslie Trudoe on Jan 16, 2006 15:53:55 GMT -5
7th year prefects: nahh. 7th year Head Boy/Girl from each house: yeahh
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Post by Filles Dé Roi on Jan 16, 2006 16:09:31 GMT -5
I really don't think there should be a head girl and head boy for each house! That's for prefects...it just kind of defeats the purpose...
But, once again my views are over ruled, and I didn't support my answer good enough. XD.
Hah, but, yeah, none of my characters are really students...so...I guess it shouldn't matter to me.
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Post by Lauren Potter on Jan 17, 2006 13:40:27 GMT -5
Yes to all except the 7th year perfects no more!!
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Post by James Sullivan on Jan 18, 2006 7:23:26 GMT -5
Should there be a Head Boy and Head Girl from each house?
No, I really don't get the idea of having a Head Boy and Girl for each house. It doesn't make sense at all. There could be 7th year prefects from each house, so they don't get "demoted" but there should only be two heads, one boy and one girl, and not necessarily from the same house.
If this is to be done on this site, then only Gryffindor, Hufflepuff and Slytherin can have 7th year prefects and Ravenclaw will have Mai and Kevin; the difference is they were chosen as Heads.
Should there be both a 5th Year male and female Prefect and a 6th Year male and female Prefect from each house?
I would agree to having sets of 5th years and 6th years for prefects.
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Post by Amy Rosalynn Martin on Jan 22, 2006 23:40:39 GMT -5
No 7th year prefects! HG and HB from every house? Heck yes!
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Post by Briana Malfoy on Jan 28, 2006 22:25:04 GMT -5
Yes on Both.
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Post by Amora Preston on Jan 30, 2006 16:10:29 GMT -5
Sure for the Heads in all houses. It'd be cool. Yeah.. and Amora-cough-needs to be Head for Slytherin -cough cough- XD. No, I really agree with it. It'd be more fair, actually.
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Post by karii409 on Feb 6, 2006 22:20:01 GMT -5
Should there be a Head Boy and Head Girl from each house? YES Should there be both a 5th Year male and female Prefect and a 6th Year male and female Prefect from each house?YES
it makes more sence to me especially after watching HP 1...how they had all those students holding the doors open on the train, thay had to be prefects, or head boy and head girl but there were too many of them to just have one boy, and girl from each house. so one 6th girl/boy prefect and one 5th girl/boy prefect plus one head boy and head girl in each house is a great idea!
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