Serious OOC problem

[jacobverre]

I think this site is having a serious problem with OOC. Roleplaying is being diminished, and most of the posts are OOC...on an RP site.

The people who do RP are one to two line RPers who dont put any real real effort into posts.

I think something needs to be done on how much someone can post in the OOC boards, because there is too much of it going on.

-Jacob Verre

[Angelina Weasley]

I agree. If you look at the Fun Stuff forum, most of the threads are really, really long! And, I've started a lot of threads and the only ones that got responded to were OOC ones. I have been thinking about leaving, because there is nothing for me to do on here.

[jacobverre]

I am also considering leaving

And taking Sylvie, Kailyn, and Eavan with me. Its just not worth it. I think OOC needs to be controlled, and a strong suggestion from me, that a lot of people get a RP mentor, so that its easier on the eyes to read posts. Its not worth my time and effort on this site.

[Hermione Granger]

Hey! Not all the people who RP have two line posts! I for one don't... Kora, Sage, Josi, Draco, Branna, Jacklyn, Colleen, Immolia, Alcippe, and a lot, lot, more people do RP and have decent sized and quality posts... but yeah, I know, a lot of people post mainly in OOC, but there are good RPers on here that do role-play often. Yep.

[jacobverre]

Yes I know Professor

And its posts like yours that make me stay, ones that are good and long and make me think and actually have to put effort into responding.

But there arent a lot of active ones that are good, too many OOC!

But that two liner thing wasnt for someone like you

[Cirlce Lykos]

most of my IC posts are more than 2 lines......i do post a lot in the OOC, but it's because i get really bored. and people complain if i post too much back and forth between chars, so i try to space it out some. i'm actually writing a post with another char right now, started writing it around 8 hours ago......stil isn't done yet...went and took a nap because i couldn't get into at the time, it's getting there now though, course there aren't many involved in this thread, but it's devoloping the chars, and now i will get back to writing with my other char.....

[Hermione Granger]

Well that's nice of you, thanks =) You made me happy. It's true though, there are a lot of RPers that have very, very short posts, riddled with simple errors, and you can just tell that they didn't put much effort into it. I mean, my little sister who is eight and is not the best writer started role-playing, and she wrote at least a six sentenced paragraph, and that was to posts that didn't give much to RP to... so it just shows that people don't have an excuse to not make their post interesting. I do agree though, there is a bit too much OOC, in and out of the muggle world, and I've noticed it creates a lot of arguments. I don't think it would be too great to cut down on the Muggle World, but maybe encourage others to actually RP somehow... I don't know how though...

[artemisflask]

Isn't everyone here for the same reason, to have fun and not to criticize other people on their writing skills. Some of the people here are in multiple threads and can't put as much effort into their posts as others who are not. Other people on the site are not experienced role players, but try their best to do something that's unfamiliar to them. I see that Hermione and the others she mentioned are very talented writers and they put a lot of effort into her posts, which is great, but aren't they all experienced role players? I have never role played in my life, but I do the best I can with what time I have available. I enjoy spending time here learning how to role play, and role playing with all of you. Spending time here is great and I'm learning from the people like I have mentioned previously. My posts may not be the best, but I am trying my best .

I agree that some posts have excessive OOC conversations that should contain more IC meat. And these ooc conversations could just as easily be PMed instead. Why clutter a conversation with occ banter when you're supposed to be role playing, right? There are people on the site who are learning and may not know what they are doing wrong. We should contact the people that we see having RP problems through a PM and offer to help them, or just let them know that they are in need of help. This may seem weird coming from someone playing Artemis Flask, but give people the benefit of the doubt. If they don't try to improve then you have a problem.

I hope what I said did some good because that was how it was intended. I'd hate to lose Hermione or Sylvie and the rest of her clan because they are very good role players and could help the rest of us...maybe.

[Filles Dé Roi]

We shouldn't criticize people on their role playing skills, that's true, it's just reeeaallly hard when you make a post you put a lot of effort in, then someone comes a long and posts a 2-4 liner...>.< ... but, I guess it's up to us to post back, and help them by posting with them. *coughs* Do as I say, not as I do....

But, yeah, there isn't too much IC activity, compared to the OOC stuff....I find in the 'fun stuff' area of the Muggle World there is a very large amount of 'fun stuff' to do... XD. You shouldn't leave, Jacob, I'll role play with you! I'll gladly role play with anyone, just send me an IM, I can do that to help IC activeness... ^.^ *gives Herm-y big hug for mentioning moi* ^.^

[Kevin Lupin Phoenis]

I personally think the other problem we have is that so many people sign up, do a few things, and then are gone for long periods of time. People on here are unreliable, and when they do come on, its either for the Fun Stuff OOCing or for absolutly nothing. Eventually posts we write are forgotten as the thread seem to drift lower and lower into nothin. For you guys, especially the Professors on this thread, you all are the exception. And really the only time I find one or two liners alright is if there is really nothin one can say. If any threads I create become long lines of ooc, i simply delete that chunk and get back tot he sotry.

[Hermione Granger]

Yep I totally agree with you Artemis, it's not good to be going around criticzising people, not at all. It's just when there are posts or RPs that are so short and obviously effort-less that it get's annoying. Here is an example of a post that would be annoying, :

'Michelle walked into the Great Hall.'

I know that people have different writing abilities, but come on, people can put a bit more effort into their posts then that... and like Filles said, it get's hard when you have put a lot of effort into a thread and then there is a response like that to it. If there are people out there that the above ex. is at their level of writing, then I think it might be nice if we could all help those people improve their RP skills. Wow, O.O you called me a very talented writer?! Aww, that makes me happy! You're good at RPing, I can't believe you are new to this... I have been RPing since June/2005 so I guess people consider me experienced.

^.^ No problem, *hugs back*

[Mercy Rosenburg]

I have moved a few threads that are OOC where they're not supposed to be, but I am only one person and there's only so much I can do. You will notice that each of the boards specifically tell you what kind of posts are allowed there (for example: Only IC posts allowed here). There shouldn't be any OOC posts in the IC boards, but I know there have been. I have tried to control it, but I have a lot of things to do and I can't monitor everybody's posts. I also started the RP Mentor program, but few people seem interested in it. Do you have any suggestions on how to deal with it?

[Rachel Duly]

Well, I think you should have a limit of the number of pages a topic on the Fun section can get. I mean, some of them are like 10 pages long. As far as the people posting more in the fun stuff, maybe there shouldn't be the games in there.

[sam]

[glow=red,2,300]I must agree, I have to say I am new to RP, but my characters have good posts, some may be spall, but I do try to make larger ones, I am trying to created good story lines for my charaters, Arieona, and Arila. I relise as some might have seen that my charaterer,Arila i think a bit trubblesome, but that was her intro, now she goinng to get better. I really try to post often thats why i decided to be a professor, and create a new class and text so that I can try to get more IC posting, expecially in classes, My other charaters, post in vlass but it seems that they never really end at times and trail off too. Not anything agance profesors here! I think the Professors are really good RP and stay IC really well, thats why i wanted to be on that level or RP[/glow]

[Blade Tival Maester]

OK, I might as well add my two cents on this as well.

I personally do use OOC quite often, but I try to keep it at a minimum if I do and then I try to at least write somekthing to go with it. Yes there are times when I have just posted OOC, and yes it does happen alot.

But to sit there and write a page in just one post is a bit over board. It just kills the post if you just try to drag it out more then it needs to be, to add details yes, but to add everything at that moment in time is really just a waste of time and space to the writer.

I don't know how other people feel about this but these are jsut my opions. Some people are new to Rping and this is just about working the kinks out, I myself have been Rping for about fives years. But i've never done a forum type one before. So I believe all people should get some slack.

[(Lelani Cascade)]

I agree with most of what is said. We shouldn't critisize, But come on. Look at the fun stuff board. Someone just celabrated there 3,000 post! That is all because of that board! I tried to rack up my posts by doing that, but it was so annnoying. I came to this site becuase leaving the other one was because that all the action was in the muggle world. If you guys knew me, my name was Tori on MH and that's why i left.

Now that is what is happening now. Muggle world, little ic ussage.I don't know about you guys but i enjoy writing long -post and reading them. but say you wrote a 20 liner you entering the entrance hall. Then let's say 'Michelle' then posts "Hi I'm Michelle." I have had that happened to me many times with other charcters. I had to start a new one. because i'm going to Rp with someone like Hermione, or Filles. I'm mean the people that only do ic have about 300 posts.

[Claire DeLour]

I agree that the OoC area has far too much action. I have to say that since this thread was started about the time I joined the boards, the OoC posting has gone down (at least I think it has), but it could still do with a lot more work.

It's fun to have an OoC area, I'm not against it at all. I actually have been posting in there a bit tonight. But the main focus of the boards has to be IC posting because when you don't have a lot of that, all the great RPr's get board and stop coming back, and then the entire board collapses or just turns to all OoC posts with not plots IC. How boring is that, and it completely defeats the purpose of the boards.

I also agree about posting this beautiful long intro in a thread, and just knowing that with all the information you gave in your post somebody could really take it far. Then you come back the next day and there's this little dinky two sentence post. Not only is the discouraging to the original poster and incredibly difficult to reply to, it's just not right! After all the effort put forth by the thread-starter, it's just rude to reply with a less than satisfactory post.

That's just my opinion, and I know that there are people on the boards who really don't like to write in a lot of detail, or they just don't care, or they really don't know how. I'm an RP mentor, please feel free to PM me if you'd like some help with your RPing. I'd be glad to help.

Just a forwarning to all new members:
If I see your posts and they're not following the rules of RPing according to the site, or you seem new at RPing and could probably use some pointers, I'll send you a friendly message to try to help you out. This is NOT meant in a condescending manner at all, so please don't take it as such, I only want to help you out because I'm just that type of person.

Thanks,
Claire DeLour